I thought what Tony was implying is that if evangelism happens more in a non-church context in secular societies, then maybe we don’t need to be in such a hurry to focus on lots of small culturally relevant church plants – let’s stick with the advantages of larger established churches.

But as you say, there is lots of overlap. I guess most evangelism involves coming along to a church meeting at some point, so I’m sure there is a benefit to having culturally relevant church plants for people to come to.

Just my thoughts – really hope you’re doing well.

“Only 3 to 7 percent of the people in the UK attend church, which generally means that their best scenario matches Seattle–one of the least-churched cities in the U.S. and approximately 8 percent Christian”

http://blog.marshillchurch.org/2009/06/22/the-good-word-from-london/

That means that the model that has proven successful in Seattle may well be less relevant in the UK.

I think that’s a good point, I don’t really know about the differences between the UK and Australia. I probably think of Australia being in better shape than it is because almost the only Australians I hear about are Sydney Anglicans!

The other thought I had was, that the church planting thing worked pretty well in Seattle, one of the most secular cities in America. How does Seattle’s churchedness compare to London’s or Sydney’s?